Ball and Vase Magic Trick: The Basics and Fundamentals

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The ball and vase magic trick is a classic and popular trick performed by many magicians. It involves a small vase and a ball that can be used to create the illusion of a vanishing or appearing object. The trick usually starts with the magician showing an empty vase to the audience. The vase is then placed upside down on a table or held in the magician's hand. The magician then takes a small ball and places it on top of the vase. With a magical gesture or command, the ball appears to vanish into thin air.


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The lota bowl trick which involves a vessel that can seemingly refill itself after being emptied is the oldest known prop trick, and dates to around 3000 BCE, according to magician historian Bill Spooner. The routine involves some of magic s most fundamental effects and skills like vanishes and transpositions, and misdirection and dexterity and mastering it is often considered a good education in magic or a rite of passage for a performer.

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With a magical gesture or command, the ball appears to vanish into thin air. The magician can then reveal that the ball has actually been hidden inside the vase the entire time. To do this, the magician simply lifts the vase up and reveals the hidden ball inside.

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How far back does the BALL AND VASE go back? Did Tarbell ever do it? Have you ever seen a professional magician do it?
I saw my first ball and vase around 50 plus years ago and I still see them for sale in magic sets.
Jeff

Posted: Feb 23, 2004 05:41 am I believe it goes back a lot farther than you think. Posted: Feb 23, 2004 08:55 am

I think it was mentioned in "Recreations Mathematiques et Physiques" which dates back to 1693. No doubt it was also around a long time before that.

The history of Magic tricks fascinates me. Wouldn't it be great to have a room here at the Café that handled just inquiries such as this. Within time we would build up a comprehensive history of many effects.

You may be interested in the Magic Lineage Project .

Posted: Feb 23, 2004 12:47 pm

The "Oldies but Goodies" section serves this purpose fairly well. Unfortunately, the historical aspect of magic as well as the collecting aspect is fairly much a niche market. A very small percentage of us are really interested in that.

A precursor to the Ball and Vase, called the Globe Box, shows up in H. Dean. So the trick has been around for hundreds of years.

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Posted: Feb 23, 2004 12:53 pm Surprised it's not done with an egg instead of a ball. . to all the coins I've dropped here Posted: Feb 23, 2004 01:13 pm

In H. Dean, there is also a mention of the egg box as a variation on the Globe Box. My edition is a fairly late one, though.

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Posted: Feb 23, 2004 05:45 pm

The copy of Sports and Pastimes I have, has the first references to the trick performed with a ball as well as an egg box. It also contains the first coin hank and fart powder. There are also several practical jokes such as putting bits of soap into a butter churn so that the victim would churn all day and never make butter. It contains a couple of chemical and drug references, such as drugging and capturing blackbirds.

Only 200 copies of the reprint exist. Counting the two originals, there are 202 copies total. I saw one sell at $150 and one at $75. I know someone that has a copy for sale, but I would not sell mine.

I think it’s copied from a text around 1450 or so, I would have to look at mine to be sure. Scotts’ is the same timeframe.

Most books from those time periods did not survive.

Would be nice to have a copy transcribed from the Old English to modern text.

. think not that all wisdom is in your school. You may have studied other paths,but, it is important to remember that no matter who you are or where you come from, there is always more to learn.

Posted: Feb 24, 2004 05:40 pm

No one has mentioned Mike Skinner's pro routine with the B&V (and I think Ed Marlo had a handling).

I used to use some clever sleights when selling them in a magic shop 60 years ago. but the trick is older than God.

STAY TOONED. @ www.pete-biro.com Posted: Feb 24, 2004 06:08 pm

Tiny bits of wax inside the S**** can help make some ball hops nobody is expecting.

Whenever you think the word S**** also think of wax.

Pete, where do you get Skinner's version? Is this the one with the marble vase?

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Posted: Feb 24, 2004 08:16 pm

I was working a hospitality suite for a paint company a while back, in San Antonio. They went to Berkie's and bought a bunch of tricks for giveaways. Among them was the Ball and Vase.

I took two of them and copped the ball out of one, which I placed in my pocket. Then, I was able to accomplish miracles with this little trick.

If you know basic cups and balls and simple sleight of hand, you will be able to figure out what to do.

I improvised and had the gilpins hopping over this one.

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Posted: Feb 24, 2004 08:34 pm

I use the ball vase. A few years ago, Curtis Kam mentioned that he knew a few magicians that also used it, albeit they use large versions (I use a pocket version).

As far as I know, there are three professional routines out there: Mike Gallo, Michael Skinner and Ed Marlo. Skinner's version is on one of his videotapes and in his book; Gallo's in Richard's Almanac (Nov 83); and Marlo's is in Arcade Dreams.

Harold Cataquet Posted: Feb 25, 2004 02:33 am

I have two fairly large ones, turned from wood. Also, I have one that's similar, but shorter, and has a hollow ball and two silks (dark red to match the balls and gaff), along with the regular ball and gaff. The stem is hollow on that one. for the production of a silk. nice.

They're from India. They look nice sitting on my TV, with a Crystal Ball in the middle, between them. Seems everyone knows how it's done, so they're just ornaments. Too bad.

P.S. What'd I do, go and kill THIS topic, now? Sorry!

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This creates a moment of surprise and wonder for the audience as they try to figure out how the ball disappeared and then reappeared. The ball and vase magic trick relies on a combination of sleight of hand, misdirection, and the use of props. The secret to the trick lies in the hollow design of the vase, which allows the magician to hide and reveal the ball without the audience noticing. One of the key elements of performing this trick successfully is the magician's ability to distract and misdirect the audience's attention. By using subtle hand movements and gestures, the magician can draw the audience's attention away from the secret compartment inside the vase. The ball and vase magic trick is a great example of the principles of magic and illusion. It showcases the magician's ability to deceive and manipulate the audience's perception, creating a sense of wonder and disbelief. It is a classic trick that has entertained and amazed audiences for many years..

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