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Breaking Runes to make Forged Runes for another AW

Ok, so I finished the knowledge tree and wanted the "Maze of the Dark Matter" AW but didn't want to wait forever to collect the runes to build it so here is what I did and the results if your thinking of trying the same thing.

Since I had all the other AW rings filled with plenty of spare runes I built 4 AW's. With a builder full of boost's it took between 7 and 8 hours to complete all 4 AW's and you have to let them complete before selling them off or the runes rings will stay full. Once they were built I sold them off and of course you don't get anything for selling an Ancient Wonder.

I started filling their rings once more and every time I got to the point where it said Forge a Rune I switched over to the Maze of Dark Matter AW and placed it there. Unfortunately the original AW's rings filled back up first so I had to build them a second time. Once that was complete of course I again sold them off loosing all the goods it cost to make each one.

Again I started filling their rings and every time I got to the point where it said Forge a Rune I switched over to the Maze of Dark Matter AW and placed it there. all in told I started out with 4 AW's which already had complete rings so I could build them and ended up spending an additional 101 Runes to reach my goal. Here is the additional cost breakdown:

14,300 Marble
39,600 Steel
45,800 Planks

2,960 Elixer
8,880 Dust
8,760 Gems

The AW's I built and tore down were the Martial Monastery, Crystal Lighthouse, Dwarven Bulwark and Mountain Halls

Plus the cost to build the Maze which is
4,400 Crystal
16,400 Scroll and 9,800 Silk

So my results might not be typical but if you have ever thought about building AW's simply to break Runes into Shards for another AW at least this summary may help you a little.

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DeletedUser3696

Guest

I see there are 3 choices to make if you want a specific AW.

1) Spend $$
2) Do exactly what you did
3) Wait, wait and wait some more for runes, shards and such thru many tournaments.

I bet you wish there was a way to make 'x' # of runes turn automatically into the shard pieces!!

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mucksterme

Oh Wise One

i've twice built my ToS just to tear it down and break some shards for other AWs
in fact my ToS is full right now but it only has one extra shard and I like to wait until several are piled up before i build it

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SoggyShorts

Mathematician par Excellence

i've twice built my ToS just to tear it down and break some shards for other AWs
in fact my ToS is full right now but it only has one extra shard and I like to wait until several are piled up before i build it

No interest in replacing a workshop with the ToS? It makes more supplies than a max level WS, and free KP

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mucksterme

Oh Wise One

No interest in replacing a workshop with the ToS? It makes more supplies than a max level WS, and free KP


Doesn't it just give supplies when you scout a prov?
Or do I read it wrong?

CrazyWizard

Oh Wise One
Doesn't it just give supplies when you scout a prov?
Or do I read it wrong?

Correct, so it kinda depends on how fast you can schout and where you are in game.
I can scout on my main once every 3 days, but it grants 313k hammers. (level 8 ToS, level 25 main hall)

With an average WS production of 6k each 3 hours that results in 52 runs thats 156 hours(6.5 day non stop) of production

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mucksterme

Oh Wise One

Correct, so it kinda depends on how fast you can schout and where you are in game.
I can scout on my main once every 3 days, but it grants 313k hammers. (level 8 ToS, level 25 main hall)

With an average WS production of 6k each 3 hours that results in 52 runs thats 156 hours(6.5 day non stop) of production


I'm on the last research branch of dwarves
and i need 6 provs at the end of fairies
so i'll build it after the next discount and see if i want to keep it
of course, as slow as dwarves is going that won't be until 2018

SoggyShorts

Mathematician par Excellence
Doesn't it just give supplies when you scout a prov?
Or do I read it wrong?

I didn't run every possible scenario, but the ones i did assumed that you only scout the exact minimum to unlock chests, and that chapters take you 2 months to complete. In those examples unless you run a lot of 1h productions and/or use PoP spells the ToS outperformed a workshop square for square.

The new wonder changes are pretty great for supplies. On my main account I have the PT,EE,ToS, and 7 workshops and I'm swimming in supplies. (there's a Woodelf undeclinable quest to have 7 level 22 workshops)

mucksterme

Oh Wise One
I didn't run every possible scenario,
I am severely disappointed in you Reactions: Maz Mellor

DeletedUser3640

Guest

I can scout on my main once every 3 days, but it grants 313k hammers. (level 8 ToS, level 25 main hall)

What!? Lvl 11 ToS, same amount of supplies.

Spoiler: ToS Spoiler: Main Hall
And. I'm overscouted, but it takes 1,5 days to scout. how many provinces do you have scouted?

CrazyWizard

Oh Wise One

What!? Lvl 11 ToS, same amount of supplies.

Spoiler: ToS Spoiler: Main Hall
And. I'm overscouted, but it takes 1,5 days to scout. how many provinces do you have?

Your right My ToS is higher than I thought and indeed lvl 11
Sometimes levels from another wonder you looked at stick at the new wonder you're looking at. because a second ago the popup for ToS said lvl 14. but when I opened the wonder it said lvl 11 indeed.

DeletedUser5747

Guest

I had a TOS once for about two days, ever since I built it and tore it down just to forge runes for what I want. I don't see what I am missing out on but keeping it. It is a ugly hog.

SoggyShorts

Mathematician par Excellence

I had a TOS once for about two days, ever since I built it and tore it down just to forge runes for what I want. I don't see what I am missing out on but keeping it. It is a ugly hog.

It's hard to argue aesthetics, some think it looks cool, others think it's ugly.
But for efficiency, it is a) better at making supplies than a workshop b) costs zero culture c) costs zero population, and d)gives you a free KP every day.

You can even use it in spurts, like building it right after you unlock an advanced scouts tech, then scouting all of the provinces you need for the next chest as fast as you can, and then ditching it if you really need the space. Since the update pretty much makes it level itself as your MH goes up it will always be awesome even at level 1. This way you can keep smashing extra runes on it whenever you need to as well.

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DeletedUser5747

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It's hard to argue aesthetics, some think it looks cool, others think it's ugly.
But for efficiency, it is a) better at making supplies than a workshop b) costs zero culture c) costs zero population, and d)gives you a free KP every day.

WHAT? one whole KP? no way! lol jk, hmmm, maybe I will keep the next one. Ugh, it is so ugly. lol Thanks for your insight.

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SoggyShorts

Mathematician par Excellence

WHAT? one whole KP? no way! lol jk, hmmm, maybe I will keep the next one. Ugh, it is so ugly. lol Thanks for your insight.

Lol yeah it doesn't seem like much, but if you compare it to buying a KP for coins, then the value keeps going up. For my cities 1 KP is either worth 384K, 314K, or 211K coins all of which are much more than 4 max level residences pump out in a day. Try and find a really tall building to put in front of it

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DeletedUser3640

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WHAT? one whole KP? no way! lol jk, hmmm, maybe I will keep the next one. Ugh, it is so ugly. lol Thanks for your insight.


Convert that one KP to coins/goods. Yeah. Personally I think that it has awesome design. but maybe that's because I'm attached to that AW as it was my first

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DeletedUser5747

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Convert that one KP to coins/goods. Yeah. Personally I think that it has awesome design. but maybe that's because I'm attached to that AW as it was my first

Lol yeah it doesn't seem like much, but if you compare it to buying a KP for coins, then the value keeps going up. For my cities 1 KP is either worth 384K, 314K, or 211K coins all of which are much more than 4 max level residences pump out in a day. Try and find a really tall building to put in front of it

OK lol guess I will just give it a shot in one of my cities, really one out of 10 isn't going to hurt. I just so happen to build it in two cities today and killed it just to forge other runes.

DeletedUser3312

Guest

Okay. talking about shards and runes and AW's.. Here is my problem. I have been trying to complete an ancient wonder for a while. I never get runes for it. lol. So when the tournaments are going, I do every one that gives out a rune shard. This last time, I went through tons of goods even though I maxed out at 700 % in planks I kept playing the tournament as we were as a group working to get as many badges as we could. I was getting quite a few shards and thought I had enough to fill a slot. I went to do so and I had only 5 shards. The amount I had when the tournament began. KEERAP. So, I posted the number of every shard I won that day in play. It was 5. I knew I had enough now and went to the AW icon and clicked on it and went to "research" that AW. The shards were not there. So I wrote support and this is the response I received. What am I missing. I would swear on everything that rune shards are now giving out in tournaments. Did it change back again?

Hello jewess,
Thank You for Contacting the Elvenar Support Team.
You don't get Rune Shard from the Tournament. You receive Runes. The only way to get Rune shards is through applying the Runes, and breaking them, or through the Ancient Wonder Enar's Embassy.
I am so sorry about the confusion.
If you have any further issues or questions please feel free to contact us! Thank You, and Have a Great Day!
Kind regards,
Moonlit Rose
Senior In-Game Support

CrazyWizard

Oh Wise One

Okay. talking about shards and runes and AW's.. Here is my problem. I have been trying to complete an ancient wonder for a while. I never get runes for it. lol. So when the tournaments are going, I do every one that gives out a rune shard. This last time, I went through tons of goods even though I maxed out at 700 % in planks I kept playing the tournament as we were as a group working to get as many badges as we could. I was getting quite a few shards and thought I had enough to fill a slot. I went to do so and I had only 5 shards. The amount I had when the tournament began. KEERAP. So, I posted the number of every shard I won that day in play. It was 5. I knew I had enough now and went to the AW icon and clicked on it and went to "research" that AW. The shards were not there. So I wrote support and this is the response I received. What am I missing. I would swear on everything that rune shards are now giving out in tournaments. Did it change back again?

Hello jewess,
Thank You for Contacting the Elvenar Support Team.
You don't get Rune Shard from the Tournament. You receive Runes. The only way to get Rune shards is through applying the Runes, and breaking them, or through the Ancient Wonder Enar's Embassy.
I am so sorry about the confusion.
If you have any further issues or questions please feel free to contact us! Thank You, and Have a Great Day!
Kind regards,
Moonlit Rose
Senior In-Game Support

Unfortunatly support crap aint allowed to be posted. but that mod surely is wrong.
http://crazywizard.info/en/tnt_tournament_rewards.html

100% sure you het these, as I do every week. maybe the mod is still living in the tournaments from 4 months ago.
Or maybe he refers jusrt to you and you never hit those broken runeshard spots?
Looks like is incorrectly refers to them as well as they are calles "broken rune shards" and runes are called "runeshards"

I had a TOS once for about two days, ever since I built it and tore it down just to forge runes for what I want. I don't see what I am missing out on but keeping it. It is a ugly hog.
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